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Du prøver å bli en gud, (Hvis du ikke har hørt om/vet det eller trenger kilder, ta kontakt) Det kan ingen mormonere nekte for. La oss se hva Gud og satan sa i Bibelen:
1 Mos 3, 4-5:
"Da sa slangen til kvinnen: «Dere kommer slett ikke til å dø! Men Gud vet at den dagen dere spiser av frukten, vil deres øyne bli åpnet; dere vil bli som Gud og kjenne godt og ondt."
Jesaja 43, 10:
"Men dere er mine vitner, sier Herren, og min tjener som jeg har utvalgt, for at dere skal kjenne meg og tro på meg og innse at jeg er Gud. Før meg er ingen gud blitt til, og etter meg skal ingen komme."
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Gordon B. Hinckley i et intervju til Don Latino:
DL: There are some significant differences in your beliefs. For instance, don't Mormons believe that God was once a man?
GBH: I wouldn't say that. There was a little couplet coined, "As man is, God once was. As God is, man may become.'' Now that's more of a couplet than anything else. That gets into some pretty deep theology that we don't know very much about.
DL: So you're saying the church is still struggling to understand this?
GBH: Well, as God is, man may become. We believe in eternal progression. Very strongly. We believe that the glory of God is intelligence and whatever principle of intelligence we attain unto in this life, it will rise with us in the Resurrection. Knowledge, learning, is an eternal thing. And for that reason, we stress education. We're trying to do all we can to make of our people the ablest, best, brightest people that we can. - (kilde)
Vet Gordon B. Hinckley hva han snakker om? Her er noe annet profeter/apostler har sagt:
"I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see. … It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the character of God and to know...that he was once a man like us...." (“King Follett Discourse,” Journal of Discourses 6:3-4)
"The idea that the Lord our God is not a personage of tabernacle is entirely a mistaken notion. He was once a man. Brother Kimball quoted a saying of Joseph the Prophet, that he would not worship a God who had not a Father; and I do not know that he would if be had not a mother; the one would be as absurd as the other. If he had a Father, he was made in his likeness. And if he is our Father we are made after his image and likeness. He once possessed a body, as we now do; and our bodies are as much to us, as his body to him. Every iota of this organization is necessary to secure for us an exaltation with the Gods." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 9, s. 286)
"What, is it possible that the Father of Heights, the Father of our spirits, could reduce himself and come forth like a man? Yes, he was once a man like you and I are and was once on an earth like this, passed through the ordeal you and I pass through. He had his father and his mother and he has been exalted through his faithfulness, and he is become Lord of all. He is the God pertaining to this earth. He is our Father. He begot our spirits in the spirit world. They have come forth and our earthly parents have organized tabernacles for our spirits and here we are today. That is the way we came. ("The Essential Brigham Young", s. 138)
"The doctrine that God was once a man and has progressed to become a God is unique to this church."
("Official LDS Lesson Manual", 1997, s. 34, "The Teachings of Brigham Young)
"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!... .It is the first principle of the gospel to know for a certainty the character of God...yea, that God himself, the father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did; and I will show it from the Bible.." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith og History of the Church, 6:302-17)
"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted Man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens. That is the great secret... It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the character of God and to know...that he was once a man like us. Here, then, is eternal life--to know that only wise and true God, and you have got to learn how to become Gods yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all Gods have done before you. .. God himself, the father of us all dwelt on an earth the same as Jesus Christ."
- Profeten Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, s. 342-345, se også Gospel Principles, kap. 47.
Fra Ensign og "General conference":
Not only do we know that God possesses a glorified body of flesh and bones, but from this restored understanding of the nature of God flows the Latter-day Saint belief regarding our nature and potential. The Prophet Joseph Smith once taught: “It is the first principle of the gospel to know for a certainty the character of God, … and that He was once a man like us. … When you climb up a ladder, you must begin at the bottom, and ascend step by step, until you arrive at the top; and so it is with the principles of the gospel—you must begin with the first, and go on until you learn all the principles of exaltation. But it will be a great while after you have passed through the veil before you will have learned them.”(Ensign, Jan. 2006, 51)
"We often say, and you have heard the expression as it has already been referred to in this conference, that "as man now is, God once was, and as God now is, man may become." The only way man may become as God now is, is through fulfilling the laws of celestial marriage and the laws of the gospel, as I have just read to you the word of the Lord from the D&C. Can we afford to overlook such opportunities for exaltation? Temple marriage is not just another form of church wedding; it is a divine covenant with the Lord that if we are faithful to the end, we may become as God now is."
(Eldste Eldred G. Smith (Patriark til Kirken), "General Conference", Oktober 1948)
"Many religions teach that human beings are children of God, but often their conception of Him precludes any kind of bond resembling a parent-child relationship. The Prophet Joseph Smith taught of a much simpler and more sensible relationship: “God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit … was to make himself visible … , you would see him like a man in form—like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man; for Adam was created in the very fashion, image and likeness of God, and received instruction from, and walked, talked and conversed with Him, as one man talks and communes with another.”"
(“Strengthening the Family: Created in the Image of God, Male and Female,” Ensign, Jan. 2005, 48)
"God the Father and His Only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ, are glorified, exalted, resurrected, beings, and from the moment of the appearance of the Father and the Son to Joseph Smith, we have known their true nature."
(Offical LDS publication, Ensign, Juni, 1998, Apostle Russell Ballard, "Building Bridges of Understanding)
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Hvis du teller alle gangene "Og det skjedde at..." forekommer, kommer du til langt over 1000 ganger bare i Mormons bok alene. Det tyder klart på at det kun var en forfatter : Joseph Smith.